A chat with Dr. McMilliam
[00:00:00] We all deserve to have fulfilling careers and lives. We deserve to experience joy, peace, freedom, and all those things that make us feel truly alive. [00:00:20] It takes a lot of courage for us to take the reins in our lives and take action that honors the deepest parts of ourselves in this current season of life. It takes a lot of courage to lean into growth, to lean into learning, and to know when it's time to make a change. I'm Arivee. I'm a first-generation Latina, mom of three, and life and high-performance coach to women just like you. [00:00:50] And this podcast is for all of us looking to grow, learn, and explore what a joyful and fulfilling life and career can look like, and how to start living into that life right now. We're going to go deep, and we're going to honor our truth in this podcast. And the best thing is, we're going to do it together.
[00:01:13] So welcome to the Humble Rising Podcast. [00:01:23] I am so eager for you to listen to this two-part episode. I have coming at you with Dr. Tamara McMillan. I actually met Tamara because she was conducting research and asked if I wanted to participate. By the time I got back to her, she was beyond capacity with participants. But we stayed connected, and I absolutely love the work that she's doing and how she's doing it. [00:01:54] So I had to have her on the podcast with me. We're also both Scorpios,
[00:02:00] which you might be able to tell with our energy exchange. During this conversation, let me first share a bit about Tamara and give you a preview of what we talk about in this two-part series. So Dr. Tamara McMillan is a distinguished author, speaker, and an award-winning educator.
[00:02:24] She has an impressive career spanning over 18 years in both corporate and higher education settings. Her doctoral research focused on understanding the profound impact of failure on women entrepreneurs. Dr. McMillan specializes in leadership development and innovative problem-solving and is a certified expert in several domains, including the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, emotional intelligence, and the Seven Habits for Highly Effective People. [00:02:56] She is also recognized as an advanced trainer
[00:03:00] for Foresight. Dr. McMillan is the founder of Empower Me, an online community for women who want more in life. Empower Me teaches you strategies for increasing your confidence, shifting your mindset, and leveraging your life experiences with the support, tools, and all the love that you need. [00:03:21] You can click the link in the show notes of this episode to learn more on how to join the community, the Empower Me community, and how to join the next cohort of women supporting one another in that community. You can also click the link in the show notes to get Dr. McMillan's book, Liberation Now: Five Steps to Begin Realizing Your Dreams.
[00:03:42] And in this two-part episode, so I call her Tamara, but she is, make no mistake folks. She is Dr. Tamara McMillan. Okay. Let's just be clear. She has her PhD. She is a [00:04:00] doctor. Okay. So in this two-part episode, Tamara shares her story and the story behind Empower Me. We talk about the importance of laying down your burdens. [00:04:12] With other women who get it. We talk about what authenticity really means and how to overcome the challenges that many of us face as we navigate life, especially our workplaces. But challenges like self-doubt, challenges like needing to feel externally validated, to feel like we have a sense of self-worth. [00:04:37] The challenge of not asking for support that we need and why and how we need to narrate our own stories and not let others narrate our stories for us, especially as women of color in the workplace. She also shares her philosophy and
[00:05:00] reframe on the definition of failure and what we make it mean. [00:05:05] Her view of failure is that we should all be failure fanatics. So I can't wait for you to listen to this conversation. Here is part one of my two-part conversation with Tamra. Tamra, thank you so much for joining me on the podcast today. I'm really excited for our conversation. I already know since we were both Scorpios, this is going to be fire. [00:05:30] Fire. Hold on. Hold on to your seats, get a drink, get some refreshment because it is going to be all of that and more. Oh my goodness. So Tamara, [00:05:40] I would love for you to share more about you for people to get to know you and what led you to do what you do today, especially your work with
[00:05:48] Empower Me. Wow. [00:05:50] That's a loaded question, but it's a great question, a great entry. I will begin on how I began. Similarly to my public defense, right, when I went to [00:06:00] the public defense to become Dr. McMillan, right, Dr. Tamera McMillan, right? Um, I talked about the importance of standing in a gap and clapping for one another.
[00:06:09] And I shared the story of watching my mother and her best friends and her aunt and her cousins and the way that they helped one another navigate these very different spaces, whether it was divorce, single parenthood, entrepreneurship, unemployment. And being able really to sit down with one another, be open and honest, hold one another up, but also hold one another accountable.
[00:06:35] And I was like, whoa, it was so dope. And I thought that, guess what, I thought only female relationships were like this. I guess I can't wait to get my girl. We all do the same thing. Right? And then I come into some mean girls. So, you know, there are individuals that, you know, had a very difficult time, you know, pronouncing Tamira or I was [00:06:54] teased for it. [00:07:00] Um, I had a Latin teacher, um, who just was insistent on calling me Tammy and I was like, well, if my mother wanted me to be called Tammy, she would have named me Tammy, not Tamira. Right? So I say this, wait, you know, there's this whole notion of kind of like saying right now, you know, female is the future.
[00:07:15] For me, female has always been the future. What I say is the only way for us to be the present is if we're both together and if we're standing in a gap, holding one another up and creating spaces for one another. So this is all I've known. I have two sisters. Um, my mother really, really pressed upon us the importance of taking care of your sisters. [00:07:40] So empower me to answer your question. was to take care of my sister on a global level. [00:07:47] And how, how does Empower Me do that? [00:07:50] Empower Me is the B2C aspect. Then I have another aspect of my company is the B2B, but since we're talking about Empower Me, we do that. What we do is, [00:08:00] and who we help, right? So let's talk about the audience. [00:08:02] We help high achieving women show up more authentically so they can do what? And have their effective leadership in their spaces, whether it's personal and or professional, right? So we do that by holding online events. So, we do two to three virtual events a year. We do something around Women's History Month, but of course, but then we have an in person event.
[00:08:28] We'll be actually, um, hosting our third annual Financial Freedom Brunch, which is an in person event. We also then do an open house where we, again, allow women to come in and kind of take a look at our tribe, right? So, we have a tribe, which is another way in which we help do this. So we have an online community. [00:08:47] It's called Tri Bow Together, and what we do is we create a dope space, a container for women to come in to lay their burdens down I the beach, so they can kind of figure out and navigate what's next, but do it. With the [00:09:00] benefit of some other dope ass chicks, right? But also with the benefit of getting it wrong. [00:09:06] So I can get it right when I get outside, because this is the place to do that. This is where you try your boldness on. Then you get feedback, you get support, and you get other ideas and different perspectives and lenses. Maybe that you wouldn't have considered had you had these experiences or this safe space to do so.
[00:09:27] And then I also do some one to one conductives. So, um, individuals that want to work with me one on one, they can, as they're wanting to fast track. So more people, some women want a cohort. They love that sister, that camaraderie. Hey girl, hey, some individuals want the one on one. So those are three ways in which we go about offering. [00:09:47] And then we have, um, Oh my goodness, retreats. So there's an annual retreat in sweet November for none other than my born day, of course, facility, of course, like, like hello. [00:10:00] And it is a retreat. Um, they're small and intimate, no more than 12 to 15 women. Um, this year we're going to be hosting nine women, um, in Blue Ridge Mountain next weekend, which I'm excited about the 10th through the 12th. [00:10:14] And it is a way, again, for us to come in person, lay those burdens down, lay our hair down and then share ideas. Hey, I might be thinking about starting a business, I need to finish this book, I need to go back to school, or I am struggling, I'm in battle with these things and be able to have intimate conversations, larger conversations, or just a space to get away, to be quiet. [00:10:40] Yeah, we all need that. Wait, hold on, what about me? And [00:10:45] that is so underrated, is the need for stillness and for quiet. Sometimes you need just stillness and quiet and a different environment to invite a different [00:11:00] energy into your life for them to then open up to share and to open up to [00:11:05] connection. Yeah, you're absolutely right. [00:11:07] And I think what happens is my daughter, when I divorced. My daughter's father, I had to move in with my mother for three months. And then we ended up getting an apartment, right? So talk about, you know, the abnormality of navigating that space. And now that I didn't even have any capacity for language to understand it when I was going through it.
[00:11:29] So, so that's a whole, girl, that's a whole other pocket, right? But I didn't get an apartment. Um, the apartment was about 725 square feet. I'm just coming from a house that's almost like 2, 500 square feet, a tent, garage, big A, backyard, and I come to this little space. I can stand in one spot and see every room. [00:11:50] But the difference was there was peace there for my daughter and I. So I bring you back to that because had this big king size bed and no room for a [00:12:00] dresser or anything else. I didn't have a TV in my room from 1998 to 2020. Talking about quiet, I believe that's one of the things that also helped save me in my sense of purpose and being able to sit with me and being okay with the stillness and then being okay with Tamira.
[00:12:21] Mm hmm. Because I didn't have the noise. We live in a very noise-free world. And especially with this technology, this little computer called the phone and the ways in which we've been bombarded with negativity and impact and messages and subliminal messages. Especially as women and women of color, it's a whole nother bag, right? [00:12:47] Erica already told the story. You're going to miss your bus. You can't go in bags. We don't understand or have what they say spaces like this try to lay them down. I didn't even, where do we go? Where do we go? Where do we go?
[00:13:00] So I talk to a lot of women of color and men and women of color, honestly, about what it means to live authentically.
[00:13:08] And what does it mean? Like, and then what does it mean? And that is like a podcast series on authenticity. What does it mean to live authentically and show up to work, especially in corporate spaces that were not created for us? Like, how do you do that? How do you navigate those spaces authentically when they inherently were not created for us to be [00:13:30] us?
[00:13:32] Indeed. So I say first and foremost, understanding that, understanding historical context, understand this was never designed for us to win. Okay, but I'm kidding. It was not designed for you to win. So when you were able to, again, wrap your mind around that, then you can begin changing your lens. Then you can change your language, right?
[00:13:53] Then tap into, who is it that you are? Who are you? And what do you know for sure? It's Matt No Says. [00:14:00] Translated Socrates. I love philosophy. Thyself, thou must know. If we cannot master ourselves, we cannot master anything else in this world. So that's one of the things. So when women come through the online program, it's.
[00:14:14] Situated in three pillars, evidence-based right through my research, my dissertation. First is who are you? What are you supposed to be doing with your life? What are your talent and your skills? And then out of the, well, we're able to really embrace that. Then guess what? The second pillar is. You can face that imposter syndrome because it's real.
[00:14:39] Viola Davis told us she was on an interview a couple of months ago, right? Love her. Have you read her book, Tamra? Have you read her book? I have not. I can't think it. Listen, I just finished this dissertation, right? It's on there. It's on there. But she said it doesn't matter how many accolades, how many awards, and how much money and how much success, [00:15:00] especially as women and women of color, imposter syndrome goes nowhere.
[00:15:04] So that's why it's always important to be steeped in what, who you are. So then that way you can protect it. What language, what's your mantra? What of your philosophies? What are your processes? What are you doing to be quiet? Who are you? Listen, whoever has your ear has your life. Who are you working with?
[00:15:22] And are they helping you be your best self? Or did the social contract for that relationship had been met and you still holding on to it because it's something. You feel like you have to because, oh, it's just Tamir. Oh, she's been my friend since kindergarten or first grade or eighth grade or high school.
[00:15:39] If the social contract has been met, it is okay to release the person into the universe. But with love, it would, again, know who you are, one. Two, then you can be honest about your imposter syndrome. What's showing up for you and why? And then you can do what? Be up close and personal with it. You can say, you know what, Tamir?
[00:15:59] [00:16:00] Yeah, there was a time when... I didn't like reading out loud. There was a time when, because it was connected and tethered to the fact that I had comprehension challenges. My mother held me back in second grade, right? Cause she understood that girl, you don't need to learn to read. And then only that comprehensive black woman.
[00:16:18] So now I can say, you know what, yeah, all those things are right, but guess what? You're also a published author. You're also an award-winning professor. So I get to speak to my imposter and say, it's okay. Because a lot of times it's just a fight or flight syndrome. And then the third pillar is when you know who you are, you can face your imposter syndrome and quiet the negative narration that continuously happens for us.
[00:16:43] Then you can say, I can show up as my creative self. And that means... Limiting the self-imposed constraints, which is the conversation. Do I belong here? Oh my goodness, I'm the only one here. And a lot of times, Heidi V, the room is crooked. It is and [00:17:00] not. But if we don't know that, we're trying to adjust. We're trying to contort and, what, configure ourselves into these boxes, these spaces.
[00:17:09] Like you said, one, they're not meant for us. In two. They're meant, again, bring a certain amount of anxiety
and a certain amount of pressure. I'm not allowing anybody to grab that on me. Now, I'm not going in there, you know, shaking my head and, you know, giving them all my black girl match. Okay, from the projects.
[00:17:29] I can't do that. I realize that, but what I can do is I can be steeped in language because when you have a, a certain amount of language that you possess, your vernacular, you can say, To an individual, Hey, did you realize what you just said it was insensitive or do you realize that you have a propensity to do this?
[00:17:49] Did you realize that all the times it doesn't mean putting them on blast in person. It could be like, you know what, can we have coffee? I'd like to take you to lunch. Yeah. Yes. I'd like to have a [00:18:00] discussion, right? And then having those discussions in ways where you get to disarm people because we know that, um, persons of Caucasian persuasions aren't comfortable with being uncomfortable.
[00:18:12] And anytime you bring a conversation up, it's on us. Well, it's not my fault. No one's saying it was your fault, but you got to hold the bag and understand that you've benefited from all that has happened to those individuals that have built this country, right? Lost wages, stolen wages. You name it, all types of systems of oppression.
[00:18:32] So that's partly how you show up. And then the other thing is showing up in the area that is in alignment with your brilliance. A lot of times, many of us are unhappy and a lot of times, sometimes, and it's up to them, we don't get it twisted, right? I'm not going to put it all on you, but sometimes we get it twisted and we get it twisted because we're not in the right space doing the right thing.
[00:18:56] How does it sound? When you end up in the wrong space, trying to cut [00:19:00] down the wrong tree. Unfortunate or bad things can happen, but when you're in alignment with what it is that you know that you've been created to do, nothing and no one can corrupt it. When you know your why, nothing and no one can corrupt that.
[00:19:13] When you know your why, nothing and no one can corrupt that. Ain't nobody make me feel bad about anything unless I allow them. Mm hmm. And ain't nobody gonna rock me off my position because I'm nice with it. And it has nothing to do with conceit. It's all confidence. And guess what? It's research-based confidence, right?
[00:19:30] There it is. You know, it has been tried and true, right? Read, read what my scholars are saying. You know, read what individuals have said and read the book. Read what individuals say when they've come to meet me and experience me. So that's how we quiet the noise. And that's how you know who you are. Those are some of the ways in which I have done and I've given to and shared with the women that come into Empower Me via one of the vehicles, via one of the avenues as, and again, I just show up as the conduit, right?
[00:19:59] [00:20:00] I don't [00:20:00] call myself, you know, this coach because I think it's overused, um, and then sometimes used in a wrong way. I'm a conduit. I'm a lead conduit because a conduit is something or someone that takes something or someone from one space to the next. Where are you? And what's the end in mind, right? Covey so that we can reverse engineer it.
[00:20:19] Tamara, you mentioned so many things there that are probably resonating with so many people, including myself. And you mentioned the, um, need or this requirement for you to know your why know yourself and be anchored in that. And then being able to use that as foundation so that you can quiet. The negative thoughts that churn continuously in our minds.
[00:20:42] And I'm wondering from your experience with women doing this work, what are some themes of where they struggle the most with this
[00:20:49] work? First and foremost. Imposter syndrome. Imposter syndrome came up, that came up in my research. They come up with women that I've worked with even before I did my [00:21:00] research.
[00:21:00] Imposter syndrome is one. The other thing is asking for help, girl, because we believe again, I need help. That means there's somehow that diminishes my experience. That means I'm not intelligent enough. And that means I don't know what I'm doing.
[00:21:19] And I, if someone finds me out, because that also feeds into what? The imposter syndrome. So they work hand in hand. The other thing, too, is understanding constraint and capacity. Almost 90 percent of the women, the participants in my study, they were all moms and they talked about the capacity, how being a mother and being a wife changed their capacity and how they had to navigate that extra layer.
[00:21:41] Again, trying to show up as their authentic self. One participant said she stopped wearing her wedding ring because when she went to networking events, men, you know, would see her wedding ring and they would say, Oh, you're an entrepreneur. And they would question her seriousness. Another one said, I stopped going to networking events with men.
[00:21:59] She only did with Wiles, Women Only Networks, because she said it was too condescending, you know, the energy was on and off. It was just a waste of time. And then the other thing is validating your worth. That was the fourth thing that came up, the validation of that. And you know how it is. We're in a, we're in a meeting, right?
[00:22:19] When you are talking, you know, to individuals about you and your credit and what it is that you do, we tend to say, well, I've done this, I've done this. I've 'cause we over sail because we want to validate the work because we're so used to individuals saying no to us in work. Try to talk us down on out the investment to do business with us.
[00:22:43] So there's another level. So those are four of the things that I keep going. But those are four of the themes that really came up when we're talking about this importance of being myself and then the landscape that one has to navigate to get through that. And then I'll share the last one. It's my [00:23:00] favorite.
[00:23:00] And this is really, um, you know, one of the things that I am leaning into being a thought leader around my IP is this notion of being a cellular fanatic, right? And all of the participants. Um, in the study, which I love because I had done it too, but I didn't know it. So you don't go in pressing a pun or grafting on what you think.
[00:23:24] You say, Hey, this is my hypothesis. And I think this is what's going to happen. All of the women had redefined failure for them. And that I believe leads to success. I believe that failure has received a bad rep. I believe that failure isn't our fault. It's actually an amazing stepping stone. It is a way for us to do what.
[00:23:44] Redirect
, pivot, and guess what? Sit in the enormity of the pain. A lot of times, we're so interested in moving so fast through the misstep and the failure. We miss the lens and guess what? We repeat it. Yes.
[00:23:59] [00:24:00] Let's talk about asking for help. Because you, you hit the nail on the head when you said, Look, I'm gonna be found out.
[00:24:06] People are gonna think I'm not intelligent enough that I can't do this. And And I want to dig deeper there. I want us to explore that a little bit more because a lot of women I talk to and me and myself too, when I struggled previously, not so much now, but before when I used to struggle asking for help.
[00:24:23] It was because I thought I didn't want to feel like I needed help also, like I didn't want to feel like I couldn't do something on my own. And, and part of it is this, um, culturally feeling like we, we have to do it on our own. No one's there to save you, right? Like that whole. That whole mentality of we're only going to save ourselves, which to a certain extent is true, but when things shift in our lives and we actually need support, we can't do it on our own.
[00:24:52] Again, I think you just answered kind of the question, but I'm leaning in and hopeful to offer something new. [00:25:00] Right to it or new to the conversation. I both go back to when you're thinking about the ways in which we are as women and women of color have been socialized. Yes. The ideology around asking for help, but it's okay for white women to do it.
[00:25:14] Karen and Susan can ask for help. They can be crying in a meeting and everybody's like, Oh my goodness, we need to help them. And then the moment Adi B or Tamera does it, then you're just like, well, what's wrong with her? Like, oh my goodness, she's having a mental breakdown or, you know, maybe, you know, her baby daddy ran off on her and, you know, she's trying to figure out how to get her kid wherever she needs to get it.
[00:25:33] Like all of these, again, tropes that find themselves upon us as women of color. Patricia Hill Collins is one of the books that I use for my course. Women Gender Studies. We have to begin narrating our own story because what happens when you think about women of color? I did the, everybody know was telling our story.
[00:25:50] Yes. They put the pen in the hand so they could narrate it, and I said, what part of the joke is that? So listen, why we have to be in, I love [00:26:00] this podcast, right? The whole podcast. I'm here talking about what we know to be true in our experiences because it's only through the telling of these beautiful stories in doing what?
[00:26:12] Creating a different tapestry of backdrops. Knowing then began saying to individuals, you know what? Y'all have gotten it all the way wrong now. Sapu, y'all knew that you were getting it wrong. No. Some of stuff that you have been ignorant and just didn't know. But guess what? Now, when we're telling the story, you can't claim to not know.
[00:26:33] So skin clay health is one of the ways in which what we debunk the rumor that one women can't come together and support one another, love up on one another and be genuinely happy for one another's success. And then it also says, you know what, this superwoman syndrome is a bunch of club bullshit. And absolutely not.
[00:26:55] You are not going to have me stroked out. You're not going to have me, again, [00:27:00] having a heart attack. You're not going to have me all the way turned around because you have these unrealistic expectations of me and only me. This is where I have to stop. This is where I have to get off. This is where I have to let you know, well, why does it seem that there is imbalance in duties, experiences, and asks of me when everybody else has a lighter load?
[00:27:24] Well, probably because we're not pushing back. Pushing back doesn't mean it has to be a negative conversation. It doesn't mean it has to end in, you know, just because we disagree don't mean we have to be disagreeable. So, I think it's us taking back that power and saying, you know, well, you know, John, yeah, you know, that sounds great.
[00:27:45] I appreciate that. And I'm sure if you want me to do this, it's 4:45. I'm off at five. I will, again, revisit that tomorrow morning at 9 a.m. when I'm here. But in addition to that, I want to ask [00:28:00] you, where's the priority? Because there are five other things that I've been given, and I did this walk to see where the priorities are, or do you want to take two of these and delegate it to somebody else, or are you okay with me doing the delegation?
[00:28:16] As simplistic as that sounds, like that's, but hell, listen, you say you have 15 things on my plate, but everybody else has seven. There's nothing wrong with calling out the inequities, because that's what it is. Yes.
[00:28:30] And you have to speak up to do that. That's the thing. That's You can't suffer in silence and so many people suffer in silence and they come to like they come to me with even if it's at work if it's home right there overcapacity at home because they're working at home basically being a mother is a work.
[00:28:47] Um, at home and then they're going to a full-time job. I always say there are things you need to ask for. Like you, you cannot operate the way you used to. Things have changed. Your season of life has changed. Your identity [00:29:00] has become even more complex. And we have to navigate the contradictions of our identity and all the different facets of it and navigate what that means, like how that manifests, right?
[00:29:10] But to your point about language. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Like the importance of naming something for yourself. To name that you need help, to name that I have to speak up, to name, I actually can't do all of this. Right. What does that mean for me? It's like being on the, that treadmill that keeps going and going and going and going and going.
[00:29:29] And you're just trying to go from one day to the next. And then sometimes your body is like, I'm done. Thank you. And then you have no choice. Then your choice is in the you're down. Yeah. And then you're down
[00:29:40] and then you're down and then you're down. So you're absolutely right. And I think also to it. It has to do with speaking to the unrealistic expectations and then being able to know.
[00:29:51] So let's just say we're talking about it in terms of, um, a position, a job. Everybody has an SOW, right? Statement of work. [00:30:00] This is outside of my statement of work. You know, this might be better suited for Kevin because this falls within his wheelhouse based off of, again, the team, the division, and where we're moving in terms of the mission and vision for the quarter.
[00:30:15] And I'm trying to understand how I ended up with this aspect of, you know, the project. You know, as a, you know, professional speaker, I love language. I love words because they're, they carry so much power and so much weight, but it's also to understanding placement, right? And then how to bring other people along so they can understand your lens.
[00:30:37] You know, without feeling like you, cause you know, they'll be real quick. She's aggressive. She's belligerent. She's not a team player. She's angry, right? And that's, and that's another thing to have to navigate, you know, the very fact that we're called everything but a child. Yeah, listen, you know, I'm like, all right, you don't do you will do you but that's another thing.
[00:30:58] Yeah, being comfortable [00:31:00] with who you are. It
[00:31:01] is. No, it's the additional. It's the additional mental energy you spend saying. I can't come across like this because if I do, I know how that's going to be received. And if so, if someone else did that, it wouldn't be received that way. But I know that because of what I look like and you have this mental, like gymnastics you're doing in your brain.
[00:31:20] And I think a lot of times people don't understand the burden that that imposes on you in like a meeting. People go to a meeting just like, Oh, it's a big meeting. And I'm like, but I'm thinking of all these things in my
[00:31:31] head. All of the same. So we prepare for the meeting and we prepare for the meeting.
[00:31:35] Yes. Yes. Yes. And again, code-switching comes into that and code-switching just isn't linguistic, right? It's like, okay, do I wear my Afro, right? Do I wear my natural hair? Do I have it, you know, slicked down, you know, to look more European? So all of these other, like you said, mental gymnastics of contortion, right?
[00:31:54] Just these magicians and all of the things just to have a seat at the table. And [00:32:00] then oftentimes when there is a seat for us at the table. It is an equitable seat.
[00:32:18] Thanks for listening to part one of my conversation with Tamra. Don't forget to catch part two of the episode next week.
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